TXO
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The Xquizite One
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Post by TXO on Jun 11, 2012 3:27:21 GMT -6
Ok. I have seen all types of rpers over the years. Sandbaggers, responders, copycats and even recyclers. Out of all of them, the one that bugs me the most is the responder. But I'm going to break down each and would like staff to explain how each will be handled when it comes to judging.
Sandbaggers - Always waits till day of deadline and posts all rps back to back near deadline.(Down right annoying.)
Copycats - Sees one person doing something and trys to do the same thing, its annoying and unoriginal.
Recyclers - Somebody that just recycles their old roleplays to get wins.
and the last one is the one that annoys me the most -
Responders - The type of rper that blatantly WAITS for their opponent to rp and then takes everything that person did in theirs, and just rips it apart.. Sadly these people often don't realize that they do it.
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All of these can be very frustrating, I just want to know if the main ones to prove will be taken into consideration. Sandbagging, Responding and Copying is just disrespectful and should have points docked for it when it comes to judging.
Right now we are only on our second show, but in a couple months everybody's styles will be made clear. Lets be original and give everybody our best when we rp. You can use your opponents rp for inspiration, but don't wait for it and don't just destroy everything they do in theirs, in yours.
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Another thing, the rules state be original... I'm looking forward to watching all of you get better as well as evolve into fantastic characters... So please please please don't be eating in every roleplay. Don't be in the gym in every roleplay. Don't do press conferences in every roleplay... Show us some of your character outside of what is a given(preparing for his/her match). Step way outside of the box and get truly creative. If you seen somebody do a scene in a different fed and want to use it, give it your own unique twist. Don't just go through the motions. Make it unique and yours.
Sorry for the drawn out rant... It had only intended to be clarification for the types of rpers, but I wanted to motivate people to try new things. Hope nobody flames me for this. The SCW initials have a special place in my heart. I want this place to succeed. Thanks again.
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Post by Night Crawler on Jun 11, 2012 8:46:27 GMT -6
For clarification: these Responders you don't like, this doesn't include exchanging trash talk, does it?
I mean if a character mows his lawn or something in his roleplay, I'm more mature then to crack jokes about lawn mowing (just as an example), but if he trash talks me, I do like to 'Respond', ya know?
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TXO
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Post by TXO on Jun 11, 2012 8:55:05 GMT -6
Responders are people that base their entire roleplay off tearing down everything their opponent posted in his/her roleplay. Trash talking is one thing. but taking a opponent's rp and completly ripping into it in character is something that annoys me. I have come across way to many people who do that and it is really annoying. They don't put any effort into their roleplay at all. just wait for a opponent to post and then use what they posted against them.
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Post by Andre Dixon on Jun 11, 2012 14:47:30 GMT -6
Here's what I think:
Sandbaggers: Deadliners. They suck. But with the system here you can only post 1 rp per day. So that kind of gets rid of the problem. People can't wait and post 2 rps int he last hour or anything like that so I don't think we will be seeing very much sandbagging. I've got to say that I work a lot of hours and so I will most likely be posting on thursday and friday this week and might have to a few times.
Copycats: Hopefully we won't have a lot of that. Even though I do think that we can get better as a fed if we help each other grow.
Recyclers: I really hope people wouldn't do this. This is cheating. Plain and simple.
Responders: There are people out there who wait for aperson to drop a rp and then just rip the entire thing apart. I haven't seen this in a while though and really don't think it should be a problem. I agree with Night Crawler however about back and forth trash talk. If you say something about me in your promo then I'm going to respond to it especially if it's wrong. Honestly it doesn't even have to be that week. If I've posted my rps and see somebody talk shit about me I'll either try to respond in a segment or say something in my next rp. Andre Dixon doesn't take kindly to people disrespecting him. I don't think that's what you're talking about though.
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Post by GM Jeffrey James on Jun 13, 2012 9:48:01 GMT -6
Sandbagging can't really happen with the rule set up. Copycats will likely be fired. Recycling will very likely result in really low marks and continued use would end in termination.
As for the "responder", if I'm grading the rp and its obvious that all they did was take their opponents rp and rip it apart they would lose points.
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Post by Alexis Prodigy on Jun 13, 2012 10:16:13 GMT -6
Recycling is the worst offense out of all of these. It is plagiarizing pure and simple. No way to sugar coat it. They are scum (well... as scummy as you can get in a fake wrestling game)
Responders ...I personally look down on it ...but I've been in some circles where it is commonplace. And we aren't talking about references ...we are talking about waiting for someone to post, breaking it down paragraph by paragraph on why they were wrong ...and the original opponent then does the same and then it is a battle for athe last word. I've been in places where this was the norm.
But what drives me the battiest is the "short story" writers ... you know those people that don't even mention the match or wrestling or anything to do with anything fed related but instead tell a nuanced story about the characters personal life ...sometimes it doesn't even feature the character at all. They might be well written, but they aren't RPs for a e-fed.
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Post by GM Jeffrey James on Jun 13, 2012 10:24:31 GMT -6
We (the SCW Staff) are kind of in the middle of something with rps. This topic will get the answer it deserves in the near future. Tonight when us Staffers get together (because it seems like that's a nightly occurrence now) I'll bring it up.
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Post by SCW Mystery Co-Owner on Jun 13, 2012 10:26:54 GMT -6
Not sure how copacetic it is for the owner to be posting in this thread, but I thought I'd throw my two cents in on a few items...
I believe we've effectively negated sandbagging with our rping rules...that would annoy me so bad back in the day. I lost on more than one occasion due to it.
Copycats, that will NOT happen...much like someone using a character without their permission in a roleplay, it will not be tolerated.
Recycling...if it's not an old SCW rp, that's kind of hard to catch. However, recyclers(google chrome is telling me that's not a word) usually make the mistake in leaving a former opponent's name or fed's name in the text somewhere. So, if that's the case, massive pts will be deducted.
Responders: IMO, this is only a solid method if the opponent is 'taping' their roleplay. Which would mean everyone would have seen what was said. So, it would make sense...however, if someone is responding to a rp that took place in the woods with no cameras around...it doesn't make any sense unless that guy is God like or something in his abilities to see everything.
A truly great rp is a seamless mix of setting, story and match talk that all make sense. Anything else is really a cop out, imo
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Post by Night Crawler on Jun 13, 2012 10:32:10 GMT -6
Sounds interesting ;D
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Post by The Great One on Jun 13, 2012 18:26:31 GMT -6
Ok since the other staffers threw their two cents in, I might as well too.
I think the others have pretty much taken care of the types of RPers and I'm on the same page as them when it comes to that. But when it comes to the type of RP I have to say that a great RP is a mixture of both story and match talk mixed in.
I think the story is what keeps us interested, but of course not mentioning your opponent anywhere is definitely not so good. Nobody likes to read the backstage interview every week, as well as the working out session etc. because frankly it gets boring and obviously repetitive. This game is a creative game and we highly suggest using your creativity! I think everyone can find a good balance and those who can't, we're here to help and guide you.
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Post by Alexis Prodigy on Jun 13, 2012 18:45:41 GMT -6
Clarification: I was talking about those that omit wrestling completely. I am more of a storyteller myself, but I know the importance of having wrestling and the match mentioned and tied into the main story.
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Post by SCW Mystery Co-Owner on Jun 13, 2012 18:52:19 GMT -6
Completely agree, if you're not going to even mentioning wrestling or the match, why are you even participating in an efed?
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Post by Alexis Prodigy on Jun 13, 2012 18:56:07 GMT -6
I ran into a guy in the early 2000's who ran a hardcore extremist type character but every RP was a ghost story that didn't even feature his character. He beat me several times because management said that it was a very well written story.
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Post by SCW Mystery Co-Owner on Jun 13, 2012 19:01:40 GMT -6
Yea, I'm pretty sure if he did that here, we'd probably have him get lost in a haunted house or something on the way to the show
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Post by Andre Dixon on Jun 14, 2012 0:17:36 GMT -6
Lexington Legacy you made some great points but ESPECIALLY about the storytelling thing. I've been in a fed where I've lost to a guy who just wrote some ridiculous story that had absolutely nothing to do with anything. It was just some random short story. I'm not saying that it wasn't good writing, because it was, but that's not the point of an efed. It's crazy to me anytime I read an rp and there is nothing about wrestling happening or talked about. Personally I like telling stories and have told them in different ways to fit the grading scale but my best quality is and always has been trash talk. I love it. I love writing it. I love reading it. Everything.
I also agree with whoever said something about responding to what people say being ok but just ripping apart the whole thing, and trying to get the last word in, and talking about stuff like the settling and all that is terrible. But if somebody says something about me in a rp I'm going to fire right back at them. That's just my style.
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